It just takes some people longer than others I guess.

Retired and "anonymous" military sources are finally admitting Iraq is in a Civil War. I'm no genius, but I figured that one out a some time ago. I think it started with Fallujah, in 2004.

There are some who are now say a variation on: now that it's a civil war we should leave.

I'm all for the United States, the United Kingdom, and other allies, to leave Iraq. We should have never gone there in the first place. However, we've created this nightmare. Is it right for us to leave now?

I don't think so. And yet, our presence in Iraq only makes the situation worse.

I think Iraq, and the entire Middle East, might be better served if the United Nations took over, in cooperation with a "Pan-Arab" group, to try and end the civil war and help the Iraqi people build a lasting government.